motor swap

someone who you would happily fork out 5-6k to.

Dont forget, that if you upgrade the engine, most mechanics will require you to also upgrade the brakes, to those fitted with the engine originally.

and in the excel's case, this will be most necessary. at the least, the rear brakes will need to be upgraded to discs. it would end up being a very expensive modification, and would need a lot of time and effort.

but good on you if you go ahead with it.

Unique is overrated. If you put a motor you can afford to into an excel it would have been done before I'd put money on it. If you put something nobody has done before in it then chances are it won't be legal.

Be smart

Be realistic

get a decent platform to modify.

Red Dog wrote:

someone who you would happily fork out 5-6k to.

You're kidding, in Townsville you can double that figure and still end up with a slow, crappy, un-registerable car.

with engine transplants, you'll find the cost will blow out bigtime, unless they've been tried, tested and succeeded

A good mate of mine is doing a k20a transplant in a gen 2 CRX and its taken 4 years, lots of heartache and half the australian deficit to get it done. He was the first in aus to start such a project and has had many issues with it, even though its still a Honda engine

Look at Bob. He's had major issues fitting the ca18 into his pulsar

Apart from whats been said already, you've got to look at: Driveshafts, mounts (engine and gearbox), suspension upgrade (usually due to the cars age and the weight of the new engine), re-wiring pretty much the whole car, possible cutting of the interior to fit the new transmission, then you have to get it roadworthied, blue plated and registered

I do like your thinking though. Its good to see people are thinking outside of the box

GRPABT1 wrote:

Unique is overrated. If you put a motor you can afford to into an excel it would have been done before I'd put money on it. If you put something nobody has done before in it then chances are it won't be legal.

Be smart

Be realistic

get a decent platform to modify.

The truth, he speaks it.
If you can't do anything yourself, AVOID.

However, I have receipts of the previous owner of my car doing an engine transplant, costs under $2000.
All done in one day, by 2 people.

in the end its your car you do how you please however think carefully about what you want to do as you dont want to spend a heap of money than change your mind on what you want

i think il just keep the same motor they said it would be like 10 grand + so il just keep the car as it is i hole 40kw lol

that is smart thinkin mate keep it till you get on your opens and by than you should have a decision on what you want to do

and if u save ur pennies the cash 2 buy sumfeb real nice, at least u had the plans 2 think well out side that box

Mr Focus wrote:

with engine transplants, you'll find the cost will blow out bigtime, unless they've been tried, tested and succeeded

A good mate of mine is doing a k20a transplant in a gen 2 CRX and its taken 4 years, lots of heartache and half the australian deficit to get it done. He was the first in aus to start such a project and has had many issues with it, even though its still a Honda engine

Look at Bob. He's had major issues fitting the ca18 into his pulsar

Apart from whats been said already, you've got to look at: Driveshafts, mounts (engine and gearbox), suspension upgrade (usually due to the cars age and the weight of the new engine), re-wiring pretty much the whole car, possible cutting of the interior to fit the new transmission, then you have to get it roadworthied, blue plated and registered

I do like your thinking though. Its good to see people are thinking outside of the box

And the CA to pulsar is one of the easiest conversions, CAs use all but one of the engine mounts and still uses the pulsar gearbox perfectly. If you can't do 70-80 percent of the work yourself, don't go for a custom engine conversion, it'll just cost you way too much time and money

Some helpful advice, considering the Hyundai's use a mitsubishi engine in the first place, prob best to stick with one of them. Accent's use the 4g93 block with different head, as to the excel's not entirely sure, but none the less for an easier conversion look at the engine's heritage and then it can open up some options in regards to suitable transplant candidates.

When I had the accent I was considering doing a 4g63 conversion at one point, but it would have costed about 6 grand back then still, was cheaper to turbocharge or just get a fast car.... i.e GTR being bought.

If you don't care about money being wasted then go for it, if you want a nice quick car, then realistically the hyundai platform, although now are good, the older models are a bit flimsy with some parts failing immediately once you put more power into the chassis.